if i bought it and threw it away complain about it being wasteful. it's the same as going shopping at the grocery shop at the beginning of seven days. >> keep living the dream. we cannot wait to see what you come up with next. that's it for us. thanks for watching. "piers morgan tonight" starts now. >> tonight william jefferson clinton, the man that nothing is off the table. i asked him a hillary question. who do you think might make a better president, your wife or your daughter neighborhood, what what do you think of ted cruz talking and talking? >> i think it's your british roots. i couldn't have said that with a straight face and got it off. >> what do you think of vladmir

putin? >> smart. we had a good, blunt relationship. >> how blunt? >> brutally blunt. >> you have bono give the best impression of the clintons. >> actually, i felt like a rockstar on that occasion. >> you can return the favor. do you a pretty good bono impression. this is your chance, mr. president. this is "piers morgan live." good evening, there is no better person to explain what's going on in washington, bill clinton. he is fascinating. every year, he brings his star power to new york city. he's made a bit of a tradition. sitting down with yours truly with an in-depth interview t. last time i spoke to you, this time last year, incredibly influential. it puts you in a position with

somebody who had two terms. to make areal assess him of where the world is right now. a little turmoil, a little conflict. what is your take on where we are? >> well, first, all the problems are probably being intensified by the economic challenges we face quite apart from the agonizingly slow recovery from the financial collapse, there a job shortage. when the arab spring ban the in tahrir square. you were there. i don't believe i've ever seen a group of young people who are more impressive, the way they spoke, they used the social media to pull each other out, all that stuff. a lot of them have jobs.

the egyptian higher education system produces 400,000 graduates a year, near 400,000 jobs, university graduates proud the egyptian economy. unemployment for young people in greece is over 50%. it's almost over 50% in spain. in the united states, our unemployment rate is without 7.3%, our work force participation rate is the lowest it has been in decades t. disproportionate numbers of the jobs are at the lower income scale, which is why there has been such a big increase in food assistance, working people and working families and their children are qualified for this now. so i think that aggravates the political wealth. secondly, i think power has become more diffuse t. food news is it's harder to have a tone deaf stayed unresponsive

government survive in the age of social media. and the act of people to go into the streets and it's very difficult to repress. if you look at brazil, where one of only two rising economies where inequality decreased in the last decade, they still had all these demonstrations in the street. the president did a heck of a good job. she didn't beat anybody up. she said, you know, if you got democracy, you want more of it. you get a little pros period of time, y -- prosperity, what do want to do? in other words, she tried to bring people into a decision-making process. when people started demonstrating against mr. assad, he started killing them. you got the mess we've got now. so i think that the economic crisis sets a stage for discontent. the dispersion of power presents new challenges to people and

we're going to have another 25 years or so of the struggle that i have talked about often when i was president between the forces of people who are trying to put things together and the forces of people trying to take things apart and it's now occurring at a more gran lar level all across the world. so it's frustrating for people who think, oh, there ought to be some magical answer to all this you have to do the best you can an realize we are in the process of creating world that is different and potentially dramatically better than anyone we have ever known before, but there are severe challenges and the tools at hand for people we put in positions of leadership are fought quite as effective as they used to be. >> president obama has to, at the moment, trust three people who as they would say you wouldn't necessarily trust with the family silver. president assad, vladmir putin

and president rouhani. start with iran. because that's always a big talking point at cgi. he compared in the interview that i did with ahmadinejad last year, struck a much more conciliatory term. he basically admitted there had been a holocaust, which is nothing that all ahmed would admit to. >> that any crime against humanity, including the crimes the nazis created towards the jews is reprehensible and condemnable. whatever criminalality they committed against the juice, we condemn. >> what did you make of that? how important is that concession and do you see a shift there with the relationship with america? how much do you trust him? >> well, first of all, i think it's interesting commentary on the world in which we are living that admitting the holocaust

occurred qualified as being a moderate. ferdz, if you get into the fact-based world, there is something to it. at least we can have something to talk about. i was hoping and i think the president was that the opening of the u.n. would give them a chance to, you know, maybe even do more. this is eerily reminiscent of what the last iranian president was there. i spoke, he spoke. i went out in the audience and listened to his speech and i apologize for america's role in overthrowing most of that government in the '50s but he still didn't feel like we could meet or do anything. so i think we just have to keep working at it and, but i don't

think that problem has to trust anybody. i think you deal with people. you see what happens. you go forward. i feel the same way about the russian effort to get the syrian effort to disclose and hand over their chemical weapons. we'd be crazy not to take advantage of this. >> it's something that sounds too good to be true. can we really believe vladmir put within his self interests for russia is orchestrateing this huge maneuver to remove all of the assad's weapon and it's going to happen? >> no, we don't have to believe it. we have to see what happens and make the mote of what happens. you work for the best and prepare for the worse in the this business. but i think it would be a terrible mistake not to take advantage of the opportunity and, you know, look, mr. putin. he is very smart. >> you know him better than most

people. >> yeah, i do. >> what was he like behind closed doors away from the public utterances? >> smart and remarkably, we had a really good, blunt relationship. >> how blunt? >> brutally blunt. >> like fist of cuffs? >> no. i think the right strategy most of the time is, but it's frustrating to people in your line of work. you should be brutally honest with people in private. then if you want them to help, you try to avoid embarrassing them in public. sometimes they do things which makes it impossible for you to keep quiet. but by and large, i found all the people i dealt with appreciated if i told them the truth. how i honestly felt and what our interests were and what our objectives were. they also appreciated it when i didn't kick them around in public for as long as i couldn't kick them around.

so that's my experience. >> did you have a remain on a personal agreement he made to you? >> no, he did not. >> so behind closed doors, he could be trusted? >> he kept his word in all the deals we made. but here's what i want to say about that. i think there are two things going on here, first of all, it's clear that the president's threat of force to enter into here prompted him to take, you know, there was some sort of conversation. he said, is there anything we can do to make this go away? secretary kerry said make the chemical weapons go away, thinking that was the last thing on their minds, probably. let me see about that. what does that tell you? a, they didn't want america to weigh in. they got the iranian military in there. they got the lebanese hezbollah in there. they did not want this. they thought they had tipped the

scales in favor of the government against the rebel groups. secondly that, i have rested muslim populations in their southern underbelly in issue. they have to be apprehensive about these al qaeda affiliated groups getting into the mix now in syria. they have to be concerned about the prospect, look, chemical weapons are not like other weapons. >> that is, you keep the chemicals over here. and then if you got a sophisticated military, you put them in a military and launch them somewhere. they cannot possibly want these huge stores of chemicals being in syria not knowing what's going to happen five years, ten years from now. he may have honestly reached a decision that it is not in russia's interest. secondly, he may have concluded, i think rightly, that he could ride this anti-american horse

only so far and in the end, it won't put a single russian to work. it won't increase the life expect antcy of russian males, which has now dropped to 59 or lower. it will not restore the vitality of the russian health care system or economy and, you know, russia still got the same decision they made. they had to make after the end of the cold war. sloongs as they got plenty oil and gas and they can sell it to the high price and hustle their neighbors, they can pretend a 19th century czarist empire world view is the best strategy for russia going forward. it's a dead bang loser. the russians are really smart, creative people. >> you talked to him on the phone? >> no. not unless, we did what the norwegian government and aids plan in saint petersburg.

i talked to them and they i think implemented it. but when i see them or, you know, when hillary was secretary of state, i sometimes had indirect contact with him. i had a good relationship with him. but they should be building a 21st century economy built on incredible brain power of their people and their facility in all these information technology areas. every year, there is a consortium of global universities that have a contest in solving computer problems and i don't check on the results every 84, but every year i checked over the last ten years, there have always been at left a two russian universities in the top five. they're good at this. why would you bailed future based on wasteing natural resources and pushing your neighbors around and trying to make sure america is miserable in the middle east when you could rebuild a future that

would allow russia's population to expand instead of shrink and allow their influence to be global based on things that are real and tangible and help people. so i think this may be the beginning of a different strategy for them. do i know that? of course not. and i think we should. >> we're trying. >> you should try everything. you should always work for the best. it is fought necessary to trust somebody to they can them up on a good offer. just pay attention to what's going on. >> when we come back, his wife hillary and the presidency. would you want your wife to go through the rigors of the presidency knowing what it's like these days, the brutal toll it takes on you? and later, a man you unforgettable played the sax on tv as another memorable rockstar moment. your daughter just informed me, all of us, you do a pretty good bono impression.

this is your chance, mr. president. .

>> the clinton's global initiative draws many people. many people had their questions for bill clinton. i put my trust into someone special, geena davis the first lady president, she played. >> she's my president. i always tell her that. >> so i think she has a pertinent question for you, mr. president. >> you do, the high point of my

life was after the show when i saw you, you said, my president. well, now, you know, i can die happy. but that's the best thing. so we have that in common. my administration was much shorter than yours. >> cut off with fans of the show. >> really, the only difference. but i hope people understand the scale of cgi and the extraordinary things they are accomplishing. and there is an increasing focus. very powerful focus on women's empower him, women's economic empower. and not only in separate discussions about that, but including women in every topic that's discussed. can you just share with us a little bit about why you think that's so important? >> sure. 31st of all, the reason cgi has done so much is that i'm not doing it. even our foundation is fought doing it. where we showed the film

yesterday on our foundation and how we tried to define what wemp about. i said i had gone out of my way never to actually get any kind of help for what we do out of cgi. we, our foundation, helps, if we are asked like the haiti working dprups meeting now. we do a lot of work there. so i'm very active there. but this is a meat for for the way i hope the 21st century will work. >> that is, this is an incredible network that's constantly shifting. constantly growing. constantly learning. and the most important thing i think cgi is doing now, beside holding the meeting and getting the right people here, it's helping people develop commitments with a better chance of december and helping them to keep those commitments. so now you got all these people getting together and working together who would otherwise never have done so before. i think that's important.

why do we decide to include girls and women in all this because first of all, it's morally the right thing to do. secondly the world has 7 billion people. we're going to 9 billion. and the countries that are growing most rapidly are ones least able to handle the growth and all over the world, the only strategy that works to build a sustainable population, culturally and religiously in every region is to put all the girls in school and give all the girls the access to the labor market. for instance, saudi arabia has done a brilliant job of getting young women in institutions of higher education. for several years now, there have been more women than men in college. they are under in the work force. japan is aggravated with the fact that they don't take immigrants. but they can by themselves 20 years to work this out if they get even participation of women

and men in the work force and they could come roaring back. so there's one of the wealthiest countries in the world. then if you go to where we do all this work in africa or southeast asia or latin america, it's obviously going to be very important. our family is real interested in myanmar. >> coming to your family, talking about women in the work force, who do you think will make the better president, your wife or your daughter? >> the day after tomorrow, my wife. because she's had more experience over the long run, chelsea. she knows more than we do about everything. there was a time in her childhood when i thought maybe she thought she did when she didn't. now it's highly embarrassing because she, in fact, does. so i feel like oil going to school every day when we have

conversations. >> i met your wife for the first time and your daughter actually. she looks fantastic. she looks reenvig rated. she seems on fire with idea and dynamism and it screamed to me one thing, i'm running. can you put us all out of our misery? >> no. but it should have screamed to you something else. real life is a healthier existence than politics. >> right. >> look at where -- he locks like he could still swim for west point. there is something to be said for real life. >> the serious point, would you want your wife to the through the rigors of the presidency knowing what it's like these days the brutal toll it takes on you, given how well you are, she said only this week she's quoted as saying you and she get to be at home. we laugh at our dogs.

we take long walks, swim, normal every day pleasure. >> that all goes out the window if you go back to the white house. >> well, the answer to that question, i want her to do what she wants us to do. i think it's too soon for her to decide. both because shows just getting used to being a private citizen again. she has a book to finish. she has all this stuff and because we don't know what kind of shape the country and the world will be in. i think it's quite unhealthy for our democracy and for our decision-making process that we all insist on now running presidential campaigns. barack obama had not taken his hand off the bible, taken oath of office before all this stuff was launched. now the republicans have been out eight yoirs, so i get that.

you know, there is 12, 15 people that want to be the nominee. so i understand that there's going to be stories about this but to turn this into a permanent thing is a bad deal because america needs to be consen trade on things like how are we going to implement this health care reform law? if we implement the health care reform law and it works and we spend relatively less than on health care, if we continue the low inflation rate, how will we see that some of that money that's freed up will be re-invested no the american economy to create more and different jobs. the reason incomes are stagnant in america today, a, there aren't enough jobs, b,er with fought changing the job mix t. only way to change the median income, i support it as you know, repeal of the tax cuts for high income people. i don't mind paying more. i think those of us who shgotten the li on's share of the gains

should pay more. look what's happening. we're returning to the distribution of the first decade of this new century, where 90% of the gains go to 10% of the people and half the gains to 1% of the people t. only way you can change that is if you have what happened in my second term with i the only time since the late '70s when every quint interest ile went up median income, the one in the middle went up. you have to have more jobs and chaening the job mix. >> what is it like to stop obamacare? most-his party thinks he is cracking. >> once in a while, i'm extremely grateful for your british roots. i couldn't have said is that with a straight face and pulled it off. for his small business.d rewards take these bags to room 12 please. . is .

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gingrich -- >> once in a while i'm extremely grateful for your british roots. i couldn't have said that with a straight face and pulled it off. that was great. >> i'm happy to help, mr. president. what is the thing, you and newt gring i gingrich eventually worked it out between you. >> we worked it out when he was trying to run me out of town when we were working together. i knew it was a game man. he thought, you know, he would, as he once said the difference between sus that we'll do whatever we can and you won't do that. you think there are things you shouldn't do and once i realized what the deal was, i let him do whatever he could and we did business on the side and you are laughing, but that's really, we reached an accommodation. but at the time because they shut the government down twice and because they wished to hold on to their jobs, the republicans, they wanted to

maintain their majority, they believed they had to show up in

which we favor division over cooperation. everybody likes being at cgi. we forget our affiliations. we show up at work. i worry about that. and i worry that. i used to worry that cnn was going to do, lose too many viewers because. >> no fear of that, mr. president. storming ahead. >> obviously, yeah, you are doing better. you are more entertaining now, which is good. but you became more entertaining without becoming more extreme, which is important. i mean, because people are wired when they see all this conflict

to get into the fray -- and you know what it takes. you got to have 800,000 viewers in a cable show to break even and if you get more than that, your profits go up. so the good news about the media stood we have more sources of information than before. the bad news is we are all of us prone only to go to the places we agree with. so msnbc has grown because they have -- >> don't mention. that i'm soifr. >> and fox news had this big base and they know it's very carefully done psychologically and substantively. everything is polarizing the country. if problem is places where people are working toke, they do well t. places where people fight, they're not doing well. it's not rocket skievenlts why would you do something that doesn't work? even in a democracy, people

constantly vote for that which they claim to hate. so here's one new test. the next test which would have a big impact on changing america. if we could get the voter turnout in mid-term election, the next one is in 2014. to equal the voter turnout and presidential elections, we would at least stop having two different americas vote in off years and that would create a clear signal that americans want us to build a dynamic vital center and they don't get that signal now. you can't just cuss the politicians if they think they're voting in a way that will be rewarded t. public has to send a different set of signals and i believe we can do. next, the battle of guns in america. what bill clinton says about the fight and the push for fun control.

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. >> tonight chilling new video. the fbi is releasing disturbing images of aaron alexis. armed with a sawed off shotgun. he is seen ducking behind walls.

alexis murdered 12 people before he was shot to dead. today the fbi says he was under the delusional belief he was controlled by electromagnetic waves. you know how i stand on guns. see what bill clinton has to say. >> what will it take to change american's culture of fun violence given we have seen the most outrages in american history in the last year. they couldn't pass gakground checks in congress. >> because i'll tell you exactly what it is. i'm the only president in modern times to consistently take on the nra and survive. wes clark and i grew up in arkansas in the '50s and '60s. here's what i know about it. the political problem is seen

from the perspective of congress is that even though 90% of the people favor background checks, there is no reasonable straight faced way you can say the second amendment permits me to check your background if you come into my gun store, the second amendment does not permit me if you buy gun over the sper net or one of these gun fairs. right. it's crazy. so everybody favours that. we conbreak the filibuster. primarily, it was led by joe mansion, a conservative democrat and pat toomey a conservative from pennsylvania and felt the same way. >> why did they do that? >> because consistently. about getting re-elected in 1996. the people who agree with us on

the gun issue have not been able protect the people they elect. why is that? how can you have colorado voting 70 to 30 to close the gun show loophole in 2000 and have these people beat 7% of people vote by postcard and mail. the judge said they couldn't do that in this case. >> isn't it about a lack of physical courage? >> no, it is not. it's about the voters having no intensity on this side. they get all upset and want to do something. then they go into their voting both and they won't disagrow with you. the people on the other side may be outnumbered. we have numbers there. of the 70 ', that voted to close the gun show lop hole, only 15

or 20% of them would vote against you if you were on the other side. of the 30%. they would vote against you if you disagree t. real poll was not 70 to 30 in favor of your position there are a lot of people that won't hold on to their jobs if they have to give up 10%. now you want to know what to do? the american people have got to quick winging their hands and say if i care about this, i'm going to vote based on this. that's one option. the other option is give the power to the voters. i had a conversation 30 years ago with my great uncle, he had 180 iq and a 6th grade education. i endorsed the waiting period.

you would have thought i come out to the soviet union i said, buddy, 1982, does anybody think i'd come take their guns away? he said no. i said, i don't believe all this stuff the nra is saying. he said, no. he said, bill, remember, the people you grew up with, you grew up in little rock. remember the people you grew up with. none of us have enough money to take a vacation. all we got is our hunting and fishing and square dances as they come to town and we don't want to take a chance. so the alternative is if you don't want to organize, stand up for your representative if they vote for you. then it got to put it on the bal lot. if you look at this, so far, we have been unable to protect

people i believe a majority of voters in colorado were recorded as favoring their vote not opposing it, but they didn't show up. and until we want this bad enough to defend the people who different it to us, or we have the discipline to circulate the petitions and put it on the billion lot, worry gonna lose. because the polls don't mean anything unless you can deliver the votes. >> president obama does a killer al green impression. ♪ wait until you see bill clinton's take on bono. that's coming next. zplmplt

zplmplts. >> you know the foundation did good work. >> does your father do a good

bono impression? >> he does. >> that's all i need to know. a lot of talk. all the cgi leaders here. it has been clear to me this morning, there is only one real talking point that has been gripping everybody. i want to play you a clip of what they're all playing about, mr. president. >> he walked into the oval office. actually, i thought it was a member of his own road crew. he wasn't really dressed right. i felt like the rockstar on that occasion. but together, you know, we did this, dropped the debt thing. my god, there's 51 million children going to school in africa because of the drop the debt theme. that's pretty good. is that right? >> pretty good. now first of all, what was your reaction when you heard bono

pretending to be you? >> he was pretty good. you know we have been friends a long time and it's not the first time he has made fun of me. but he's getting better at it. >> your daughter just informed me, all of us, that you do a pretty good bono impression. this is your chance, mr. presiden president. >> welcome to the irish. when we're ice, we can imitate anybody. but i have been singing so long, screaming so loud at these concerts that i'm hoarse, so i got to be careful with my voice. that's why all my charities only have three better names but red

1. even that's more effort than you, too. but we still do a lot of good. >> mr. president it's been an absolute delight. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next, the clinton's consider her their greatest achieve, an interview with chelsea. your dad said he thinks he knows it all. >> i'm grateful that i have a father.

. >> chelsea clinton says her father knows just about everything. here's a preview of my interview with chelsea. clearly, there is an issue now with the radicalization of home grown terror, whether it's america, britain, or we don't know where this comes from. we saw it on the boston

marathon. you have this. you have a youth that can be susceptible. how do you think have you bags of experience? how do you think the best way, don't you like america can actually deal with this problem. >> the greatest risk factor is arguably young men to any social system. to any saturday in the world. so in showing that young people feel like we are collectively investing more in their future than in kind of either harboring past grievances or if kind of protecting the status quo is the best to that. i think in some ways they have been transcending historic tribal barriers and strife. they have come a tremendous way since the 2007, 2008 election violence and have been

repuddiatei repuddiateing forces to keep kenya back. i think because people say we're not going to have a violent election. we are going to move our country forward, sadly, we see in the backlash and i have no doubt young people will keep fighting for the future. >> hearing you to speak, ash actually, it sovs you. have you ever thought of running for office? >> there is people that have been requesting me that question, literally. >> what's the truthful answer? >> the truthful answer is thankfully i love my life. i love being able to do in work. i love that particularly through the university, we're able to connect students like peggy and

more resources that can help connect her to young students that want to do their work. i'm grateful i live in a state. >> this is beautiful. it's so perfect. you play board games, like scrabble. if so, who wins? >> we are a card playing family. >> which card game? >> we play peaknuckle, spades. >> deeply competitive. >> who wins? >> how did i know you'd say that? >> first of all, you all win 37% of the time. >> in scrabble, my mother is probably better. >> in boggle, my dad is probably the best boggler. my mom is probably the best

scrabbler. pretty good upwards. everyone is pretty good. equally. >> what are you good at? >> backgammon, checkers. >> interesting. i can talk about this for hours. >> ac 360 later starts right now. >> tonight senator ted cruz's marathon speech, met with among many of his fellow republicans. also a killer attack. under surveillance video shows the shooter with a sawed off shotgun in hand. a new include about the mysterious etchings on his gun might mean. outrage on the eve of a convicted rapist released from prison. his victim was 14-years-old, she later killed herself. i'll talk to the victim's mother ahead. all